This conversation places a historian from the Brazilian political organization Reaja ou Será Morto / Reaja ou Será Morta (React or Be Killed) in dialogue with other members of that group to reflect on how the study of history on the one hand and the struggle against racist police brutality and the possibility of creating a world without such violence on the other might inform each other. The interlocutors explore historical continuities in policing Black communities, and in what they have identified as genocidal violence against Black Brazilians, as well as in anti-Black racist notions of public safety that have become imbricated in the way the state functions. With their Pan-Africanist community school, Escola Winnie Mandela, with their militant commitment to autonomy, and in the face of persistent neglect by the state, members of Reaja suggest that theirs is already a world without police.

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